From: dwelsh@nospam.melbpc.org.au (Donald Welsh) Subject: New spoiler file -- Appeasement Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:32:53 GMT Appeasement =========== by Donald Welsh "Thou hast angered me." When Nethack deities become angry, they need to be propitiated. The tables below explain by how much a given sacrifice will appease your deity. Monsters not listed are ignored by an angry god. The lords of Chaos are vain and bloodthirsty, and harder to please, whereas the embodiments of Law and Balance, while stern, are more inclined to forgive. How can you get into trouble? There are minor offenses that anger your deity by 1 point, and major ones that harm your standing by 3. Attempting to fool the gods is so bad it counts as both. Venal sins * displacing your pet into a pool of water (75% chance) * praying before enough time has elapsed * attempting a water prayer on a non-coaligned altar * offering a unicorn of the same alignment as the altar * knowingly offering a fake Amulet of Yendor Cardinal sins * a non-chaotic human performing a human sacrifice * a non-chaotic elf performing an elven sacrifice * attempting and failing to convert yourself * knowingly offering a fake Amulet of Yendor Appeasement table for Chaotic ----------------------------- 1 Aleax 1 frost giant 1 Olog-hai 1 aligned priest 3 Geryon 1 Oracle 1 Angel 1 ghost 1 orange dragon 2 Arch Priest 1 giant mimic 3 Orcus 1 archeologist 1 Goblin King 1 Pelias 2 Archon 1 golden naga 2 Pestilence 1 Ashikaga Takauji 1 gray dragon 1 pit fiend 4 Asmodeus 1 green dragon 1 priest 3 Baalzebub 1 guard 1 priestess 1 baby black dragon 1 guardian naga 1 purple worm 1 baby blue dragon 1 healer 1 queen bee 1 baby gray dragon 1 hell hound 1 red dragon 1 baby green dragon 1 hezrou 1 rock troll 1 baby orange dragon 2 high priest 1 rogue 1 baby red dragon 1 Hippocrates 1 salamander 1 baby white dragon 1 ice devil 1 samurai 1 baby yellow dragon 1 ice troll 1 shade 1 balrog 1 iron golem 1 Shaman Karnov 1 baluchitherium 1 Ixoth 1 shopkeeper 1 barbarian 1 jabberwock 1 skeleton 1 black dragon 2 Juiblex 1 stone golem 1 black pudding 1 ki-rin 1 Thoth Amon 1 blue dragon 1 King Arthur 1 titan 1 bone devil 1 knight 1 titanothere 1 captain 1 kraken 1 tourist 1 caveman 1 lich 1 trapper 1 cavewoman 1 lieutenant 1 Twoflower 2 Chromatic Dragon 1 Lord Carnarvon 1 umber hulk 1 clay golem 1 Lord Sato 1 valkyrie 1 couatl 1 Lord Surtur 1 vampire 1 Croesus 1 lurker above 1 vampire lord 2 Cyclops 2 mail daemon 1 Vlad the Impaler 1 Dark One 1 marilith 1 vrock 2 Death 1 Master Assassin 1 watch captain 1 demilich 1 master lich 1 water demon 4 Demogorgon 2 Master of Thieves 1 water troll 3 Dispater 2 Medusa 1 white dragon 1 Earendil 1 mind flayer 1 winged gargoyle 1 elf 2 Minion of Huhetotl 1 wizard 1 elf-lord 1 minotaur 1 Wizard of Balance 1 Elvenking 1 nalfeshnee 2 Wizard of Yendor 1 Elwing 2 Nalzok 1 xorn 1 ettin 1 Nazgul 2 Yeenoghu 2 Famine 1 Norn 1 yellow dragon 1 fire giant 1 nurse 1 zruty Appeasement table for Lawful & Neutral -------------------------------------- 1 acolyte 1 ettin 1 marilith 1 air elemental 1 ettin mummy 2 Master Assassin 1 Aleax 1 ettin zombie 2 master lich 2 aligned priest 4 Famine 3 Master of Thieves 2 Angel 1 fire elemental 3 Medusa 1 apprentice 1 fire giant 1 mind flayer 3 Arch Priest 1 fire vortex 3 Minion of Huhetotl 1 archeologist 1 flesh golem 2 minotaur 3 Archon 1 forest centaur 1 mountain centaur 2 Ashikaga Takauji 1 freezing sphere 1 mumak 6 Asmodeus 1 frost giant 2 nalfeshnee 1 attendant 1 gargoyle 3 Nalzok 5 Baalzebub 1 gelatinous cube 2 Nazgul 1 baby black dragon 4 Geryon 1 neanderthal 1 baby blue dragon 1 ghost 1 ninja 1 baby gray dragon 1 giant 2 Norn 1 baby green dragon 1 giant eel 1 nurse 1 baby long worm 1 giant mimic 1 ochre jelly 1 baby orange dragon 1 giant mummy 1 ogre 1 baby purple worm 1 giant spider 1 ogre king 1 baby red dragon 1 giant zombie 1 ogre lord 1 baby white dragon 2 Goblin King 2 Olog-hai 1 baby yellow dragon 1 golden naga 1 Oracle 2 balrog 2 gray dragon 2 orange dragon 2 baluchitherium 2 green dragon 1 orc mummy 1 barbarian 1 Green-elf 1 orc-captain 1 barbed devil 1 gremlin 4 Orcus 1 barrow wight 1 Grey-elf 1 owlbear 2 black dragon 1 guard 1 page 1 black light 2 guardian naga 2 Pelias 1 black naga 1 guide 4 Pestilence 1 black pudding 1 healer 2 pit fiend 1 black unicorn 1 hell hound 1 pit viper 2 blue dragon 1 hell hound pup 1 priest 1 bone devil 1 hezrou 1 priestess 1 captain 3 high priest 2 purple worm 1 carnivorous ape 1 High-elf 1 python 1 caveman 1 hill giant 1 quantum mechanic 1 cavewoman 2 Hippocrates 1 quasit 1 chameleon 1 horned devil 1 queen bee 1 chieftain 1 human mummy 2 red dragon 3 Chromatic Dragon 1 ice devil 1 red naga 1 clay golem 1 ice troll 1 rock troll 1 cobra 1 ice vortex 1 rogue 1 cockatrice 1 incubus 1 roshi 1 couatl 2 iron golem 1 rust monster 1 crocodile 2 Ixoth 1 salamander 2 Croesus 2 jabberwock 1 samurai 3 Cyclops 3 Juiblex 1 sasquatch 2 Dark One 2 ki-rin 1 scorpion 4 Death 2 King Arthur 1 sergeant 2 demilich 1 knight 2 shade 7 Demogorgon 2 kraken 2 Shaman Karnov 5 Dispater 1 large cat 2 shopkeeper 1 djinni 1 large dog 2 skeleton 1 dwarf king 1 large mimic 1 small mimic 2 Earendil 1 leather golem 1 soldier 1 earth elemental 1 leocrotta 1 stalker 1 electric eel 2 lich 1 steam vortex 1 elf 1 lieutenant 1 stone giant 1 elf mummy 1 long worm 2 stone golem 1 elf-lord 2 Lord Carnarvon 1 student 1 Elvenking 2 Lord Sato 1 succubus 2 Elwing 2 Lord Surtur 1 tengu 1 energy vortex 1 lurker above 2 Thoth Amon 1 erinys 3 mail daemon 1 thug 1 tiger 2 Vlad the Impaler 1 winter wolf 2 titan 1 vrock 1 wizard 1 titanothere 1 warg 2 Wizard of Balance 1 tourist 1 warrior 4 Wizard of Yendor 1 trapper 1 watch captain 1 wood golem 1 troll 1 watchman 1 wraith 2 Twoflower 1 water demon 1 wumpus 1 umber hulk 1 water elemental 1 xan 1 unicorn* 1 water moccasin 1 xorn 1 valkyrie 1 water troll 4 Yeenoghu 1 vampire 1 werewolf 2 yellow dragon 1 vampire bat 2 white dragon 1 yeti 2 vampire lord 1 winged gargoyle 1 zruty * not coaligned ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: irina@rempt.xs4all.nl (Irina Rempt) Subject: Re: New spoiler file -- Appeasement Date: 21 Sep 1999 14:49:28 +0200 I presume that you went through the monster list and ranked monsters by XP value/difficulty? It must have been that, because many monsters in the list (a quick guesstimate makes it about one in three to four) are unfit to sacrifice: - Quest leaders: sacrificing your Quest leader will probably be a sin worse than the remedy, and nobody meets someone else's Quest leader - peaceful Quest extras (always the same species as you) - other humans in the lawful/neutral list - lawful and neutral Quest nemeses in the chaotic list - monsters that don't leave a corpse: ghosts, shades, skeletons, all E, v, y, & (and you can't even *hit* the mail daemon, let alone kill him), L, W and A, the Dark One (besides, he's human) - monsters that only leave tainted corpses: vampires, mummies, zombies - golems ("That is a silly thing to sacrifice") - Riders: you *could* probably lure them on the right altar and kill them, but I don't know if you can also sacrifice them. Anyway, when you're on that altar you're bound to have something that your god likes even better. I can imagine an Elf lugging Croesus through the Ludios portal onto an altar on the portal level, but I don't think it's practicable. The Wizard of Yendor, on the other hand... hmm, almost worth playing an Elf for. There's no altar on the Oracle level, but it's just *possible* if you're strong enough to lift her and have controlled teleport and there's an altar in the downstairs room. Raisse the Thaumaturge