Dudley's (New, Improved) Dungeon

< Jun 20th, 2010 >kamal337
The zombies suddenly start dancing!


You're terrified, unable to move.
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  • 9 mediocre
  • 4 fair
  • 3 good
  • 3 excellent
Average rating: mediocre
Number of ratings: 38
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#1 mightytater Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:49:51
I would have loved to see the tombstone ... and Dudley's conduct too.

#2 Anonymous Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:24:14
"The comic proves to me, once again, why reference based "jokes" are so deceptive: people get amusement from recognizing the reference, and they confuse this amusement with actual humor, which it is not." - Carl Wheeler on xkcd #754,

#3 Slandor Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:56:34
Lord knows, wouldn't want anyone to have any unauthorized amusement. xkcd dealt with that guy in advance:

...this one was M, though. Panel 2 text should probably be "You're paralyzed" or something like that.

#4 Quint Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:03:03
The urge to sing overwhelms you.

#5 Zarpheek Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:32:02
Z: a zombie (thing with forty eyes)
Last edited: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:36:07

#6 Anonymous Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:19:20
The quote means that just referencing something is not funny, you have to MAKE it funny. Guess how that relates to this comic?

#7 Slandor Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:30:14
Right, the reference in this comic isn't funny. Hence its ratings. But Mr. xkcdsucks's principle is wrong; if a reference is amusing, then people are amused by it, and it's silly to lecture them about how they shouldn't be amused by it and are mistaking it for real humor. In this case the reference wasn't particularly amusing, because it wasn't done well, but in the comic he was talking about, it was done well, which is why it was amusing. (In fact it was the only decent xkcd strip this month, which is why he had to come up with a lame reason for saying it sucked.)

#8 Quint Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:23:04
FYI, I got a new comic up at Sadowl.

#9 acheron Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:07:29
the problem with xkcdsucks is that it's built upon its premise, so they have to take shots at every xkcd comic whether or not it's a good one. i fully admit that xkcd is not nearly as good as it used to be, but that doesn't mean every single comic sucks.

on topic: this one is not very good.

#10 DarthCliche Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:05:26
M because I don't get the reference.

#11 Quint Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:51:28
Well, at least they honestly call themselves xkcdsucks, rather than something like XKCD News or something.

#12 Anonymous Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:32:52
Well, Carl does admit to liking a strip from time to time, but I guess he is somewhat predisposed to hate even the average ones.
Slandor: Yeah, I guess you're right, except for one thing. I don't believe there is anything like an "amusing reference". Yes, a reference may be amusing, but it requires context. Without that, it's just a reference. It's only shouting "Thriller by Michael Jackson" and hoping someone laughs.

#13 Zarpheek Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:36:55
This is one of the least popular strips I've seen.

#14 Sorceror Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:17:34
Sorry, but xkcd #754 is not even amusing, mostly because its take on "dependency" is not original at all. The Jargon File does it best:

recursion: n. See recursion.

ThinkGeek's recursive T-shirt does it second-best:

Reference jokes are only amusing if there's some slight send-up involved.

#15 mijae Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:45:37
I kind of agree with that xkcdsucks line... but not when it comes to Dudley. Trying to find a good or interesting way to render a reference in the nethack world is a lot more interesting to me than the usual "just a reference" you get from a webcomic. This particular strip isn't the best example, but oh well.

#16 Quint Fri, 25 Jun 2010 03:08:47
I didn't think this strip was bad.

#17 TobyBartels Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:09:59
@ Sorceror

The recursion joke, while classic, is pretty simple and barren in its abstractness. The dependencies joke is clearly an expression of frustration, probably brought about by a recent personal experience of the author. I suppose that the recursion joke may have originated that way too, but now that it has been stripped down to its bare essentials, it is about as funny as why the chicken crossed the road.

Last edited: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:17:30

#18 Anonymous Sat, 26 Jun 2010 01:53:34
I'd probably have liked this strip if I had gotten the reference.

Also, my CAPTCHA question was "What symbol represents a zombie?"

#19 Sorceror Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:24:43
"Why did the chicken cross the road?" was never intended to be a joke; it's a riddle.

#20 Quint Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:33:15
Something can be both a joke and a riddle.

#21 DarthCliche Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:18:08
On an unrelated note, I just submitted two new strips.

#22 TobyBartels Thu, 1 Jul 2010 00:04:14
Is either a joke or a riddle?

#23 Anonymous Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:22:33
New(t) comic! Calling for a new(t) comic!

#24 Quint Thu, 1 Jul 2010 19:50:23
Read my lips: No newt axes!

#25 xCheckPoint Fri, 2 Jul 2010 09:24:41
No way, Sir. There have been, are, and always will be newt axes. This is as sure as death (especially in nh) and those axes...
Last edited: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:44:27

#26 xolroc Sat, 11 Sep 2010 04:05:46
The redeads in Ikana?

#27 MrXkcdsucks Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:14:59
Is someone talking about me?

#28 MrXkcdsucks Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:17:09
Yes. Yes, they are.
Last edited: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 08:18:32

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